tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post2135572844299050363..comments2023-06-04T03:58:02.763-04:00Comments on He Said/She Said: She Said: Solutions to the Menace of Unmarried MenBored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16930954374449121797noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-87098711114702749152009-06-27T22:31:34.184-04:002009-06-27T22:31:34.184-04:00I think the crux is that one descriptor that Pres ...I think the crux is that one descriptor that Pres Hinckley and other used: those who remain single <i>through no fault of their own</i> won't be denied blessings in the worlds to come. That way it can apply to either men or women.<br /><br />I don't think male children who die before the age of accountability will be denied blessings. I don't think worthy males who die before they reach the age of marriage will be denied blessings. I don't think elders who die on their mission will be denied blessings.<br /><br />And anyway, since the crux is "through no fault of their own", the only possible true judge of that is the Lord. <br /><br />What about some poor non-membner guy who was a jerk his entire life, either been divorced or never-married, even if it was "his own fault", and repents of his sins and jerk-itude, and joins the church late in life? That's up to the Lord to judge him too.<br /><br />I've known plenty of people in the single adults programs of the church who are so "broken" due to their life's circumstances (family abuse, illness, whatever), that it seems unlikely many will get married, though miracles sometimes happen, and people with compatible problems or conditions sometimes find each other.<br /><br />The promise of exaltation for all the billions of people who died as babies pretty much says that the Lord will allow some kind of match-up and marriage to take place on the other side. <br /><br />So I take the Lord's answer to the hypothetical question about the woman who sequentially marries 7 brothers, Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven", he must have used the "they" as referring to those specific individuals, and not meant "they" as universally applying to everyone. "They" (ie, those particular people) neither marry or are given in marriage, because the woman apparently gets sealed to her first husband by default. (well, if she still wants him, etc.)<br /><br />The fact that we do proxy sealings for people who were married in this life, is another example of a post-mortality eternal marriage. So that opens another category of exceptions.<br /><br />It seems to me then that the "doomed to single-hood for the eternities" only applies to people worthy of the Terrestrial or Telestial Kingdom, those who weren't going to the Celestial anyway.<br /><br />And, among those who are otherwise Celestial worthy, only those who know about eternal marriage (ie, the LDS) and intentionally avoid marriage to an avaialble, worthy and compatible spouse, or intentionally keep themselves un-qualified for marriage, are in danger of those two single-and-separate (unmarried) lower (non-exalted) levels of the Celestial Kingdom.Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-18835339957587961262009-06-27T16:15:24.020-04:002009-06-27T16:15:24.020-04:00I think it's a culture issue, not doctrine. Me...I think it's a culture issue, not doctrine. Men have always been the pursuers in society as a general rule...so they put pressure on the men to get it done, but just because the leaders hint at it doesn't make it doctrinally sound. There's nothing in scriptures that says one way or the other either. The leaders know that if men or women aren't seeking to get married then other sins etc can pop up. It's always something that is between the person and the Lord, just like how many children a couple wants, etc. And Brigham Young...he said a lot of whacked out things--he was a racist and said that slavery was a divine institution. So one leader's opinion isn't doctrine; they're fallible just like everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-37166796410256687752009-06-27T08:41:55.122-04:002009-06-27T08:41:55.122-04:00Anon, I don't believe single men will be held ...Anon, I don't believe single men will be held back in the eternities either. But what do we have doctrinally to support that? We have plenty of statements to comfort the single woman, but the single man is still being quoted the (disputed) Brigham Young warning, and being admonished by mission presidents and Church leaders to get married as soon as possible.Bored in Vernalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-51995270257680839832009-06-27T02:58:21.024-04:002009-06-27T02:58:21.024-04:00I really hope God isn't that cruel. That's...I really hope God isn't that cruel. That's not the religion or the eternities I want to be apart of. God knows what's in our hearts so I guarantee men won't be held accountable for not getting married. Unless they were really selfish and didn't want to get married til the next life? Maybe? Anyway, and I definitely don't think polygamy is an option no matter who has the multiple spouses. That's not part an eternity I want to be involved in either. If polygamy were the way to go, we'd always have been living it. It's not! It's not fair nor does it allow for mutual care and affection...Ok, that's probably for another blog topic. So men, if you really want to get married and it's not working out for one reason or another don't sweat it! God won't punish you! IMHO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-68058981419439373902009-06-26T22:39:28.898-04:002009-06-26T22:39:28.898-04:00Anon, you just have to get to know me and my lovab...Anon, you just have to get to know me and my lovable sense of humor.Bored in Vernalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14016611721544251941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-67576334960844768152009-06-26T21:32:56.194-04:002009-06-26T21:32:56.194-04:00Man, you really must be bored in Vernal. I was int...Man, you really must be bored in Vernal. I was interested in topic, but after reading your last 3 sentences I can't take anything in this post seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-34431318070057383452009-06-26T20:55:10.808-04:002009-06-26T20:55:10.808-04:00Why'd you throw that in at the end?
Like I wou...Why'd you throw that in at the end?<br />Like I would share my wife with someone else. *eyeroll*Dr. Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18061544604584544836noreply@blogger.com