tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post8933595696516361858..comments2023-06-04T03:58:02.763-04:00Comments on He Said/She Said: He Said: Surgical SterilizationBored in Vernalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16930954374449121797noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-56700738313635840312014-07-21T05:06:26.143-04:002014-07-21T05:06:26.143-04:00Many couples think that sterilization is an easy w...Many couples think that sterilization is an easy way to get rid of having more children, but it has many symptoms that affect life of a woman. If you want healthy life, then tubal reversal is only a single way for you.Lilita Raynehttp://tubalreversalusa.blog.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-78431110159544126072014-02-08T10:12:32.855-05:002014-02-08T10:12:32.855-05:00This is interesting, I have only viewed vasectomy ...This is interesting, I have only viewed vasectomy and tubal ligation as "birth control". Regarding the statement in the HB saying that individuals should consult their bishop, I think that pertains to when they are considering the procedure for someone else who falls under the second situation (mentally incompetent, birth defects). That being said, the church does adjust these handbooks. Open adoption was once "strongly discouraged" (which is no longer the case). I think of vasectomies the same way I think of having a finger amputated... I'm promised my body will be restored. You are arguing that you won't be able to procreate in the eternities, but if that is true, does that mean I will also struggle with diabetes or depression in the eternities? I will totally give you that whatever attitude/tendencies you have now will still be present later, so if you're getting a vasectomy because you're trying to make a statement about how you hate children... then that might be an issue later :) <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-67365153791873009452014-01-11T13:07:48.332-05:002014-01-11T13:07:48.332-05:00I appreciate your vulnerability in sharing the chi...I appreciate your vulnerability in sharing the chiding you have received through the years about having a big family. I have 5 living children (we lost twins in 2005) and have pondered the subject of birth control. Most, if not all, have unintended consequences. We've used many. Personally, I'm learning that doing things in consultation with others is a blessing, not an admission of my incompetence. I have blind spots that others, especially those with with divine inspiration because of their calling, can see. I don't abdicate my own freedom of choice to others without examination and putting to a spiritual test; nor do I feel that the LDS church has ever asked that of me. True, members, and maybe even local, volunteer leaders, have suggested it out of their own error. But, never God or His prophets. Prior to proceeding with a surgical sterilization, I have no problem with seeking consultation with my bishop as the counsel in the handbook requires.Brian Uriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04650025407622194510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-34651421927561797702012-02-05T13:28:08.529-05:002012-02-05T13:28:08.529-05:00I feel compelled to share my story of personal rev...I feel compelled to share my story of personal revelation which I received when I was pregnant with my fourth child. I am the mother of 6 children and the grandmother of 5 with the 6th due in July 2012.<br />I am a convert to the Church. I joined when I was 20 years of age. I was the first, that I am aware of that had become a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. My mother urged me often after my 2nd child to have my tubes tied. By the time I was in my 3rd month with my 4th child she told me that she would pay to have it done after the birth of number 4 if I would choose to do so. I felt that it made sense, after all, I would now have brought 4 children into the world, so it was agreed to do this.<br />One afternoon I had put my 3 children down for their naps and was looking forward to reading and quiet time for the next hour or so. It was now my break time. I had commenced reading, with no thought towards the agreement my mother and I had made when all of a sudden I received a revelation, spirit to spirit, by the power of the Holy Ghost, that I should 'not' go through with the procedure that would end my mortal ability to bear children. He said that procreation is an eternal gift from God and that if I should choose to loose it in mortality, that I would loose it throughout all of eternity. I was numbed by the power of this knowledge. I was surprised at receiving it for my thoughts were no where near anything religious at that moment but I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it was a personal revelation to me, and that it was a warning to me. Tears flowed as I contemplated on what I had just been told.<br />I chose not to have the procedure at my mothers dismay. After my 4th was born, It was 4 years (1989) before I had my fifth and a year and a half later(1990) when my sixth was born. I felt that I was given a few years to recover/rest before my last two were brought into the world.<br />I need to say, that I in no way intend that this revelation is towards anyone but me. It is a personal matter between us and our Lord and each situation is different, but I will say that it is not a matter to toy with. The power of procreation is an eternal gift and should always be reverenced and prayed about.<br />I would like to say that at that time, I honestly had no idea of the Churches standing on this matter, but as the years have passed, I realize that my Father in heaven loves me and those precious souls that my husband and I brought forth... and I am eternally grateful to Him for that moment that truth for me was revealed. It was an act of love on His part and an act of faith on mine to choose not to let loose of this precious power, procreation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-36238601858498362082010-05-14T01:27:00.121-04:002010-05-14T01:27:00.121-04:00its true that Children are one of the greatest ble...its true that Children are one of the greatest blessings in life but if you need no more kids than both take a combine decision and then use the procedure of birth controltubal reversalhttp://www.mybabydoc.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-29180841441899802542010-04-22T14:37:45.243-04:002010-04-22T14:37:45.243-04:00Interesting, it seems to me that you think the sur...Interesting, it seems to me that you think the surgery will be permanent in the afterlife. Circumstances will be different in eternity than it is here on earth. We are taught that our bodies will be made perfect again. My husband was in the bishoprick and reiterates the churches discouragement the S.S. concept often when he hears about church members getting sterilized. I am getting a tubal ligation in a couple weeks. My husband is not encouraging me, he would rather me not, even though we both know we don't want to have anymore children. (4 kids, 2 boys/2 girls) I do not feel the need to get permission from my Bishop. I do not feel it is fair for me to be on birth control for 20+ years until I go through metopause. Or to constantly worry about an unplanned (to me possibly unhealthy) pregnancy. I care about the children I have to want to give them all the support, love, and attention I can. I don't want to streatch myself out so thin that my children get neglected because mom keeps having more babies. Just because your kids get older doesn't make taking care of them any easier. If that is selfish of me then I will face God and take my punishment for wanting to be a good, SANE mother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1663941132319374651.post-72646675314487006772009-06-27T19:27:18.030-04:002009-06-27T19:27:18.030-04:00Wow, I hope God isn't as black and white as yo...Wow, I hope God isn't as black and white as you are in your views. I guess your wife is just around to birth babies for you and same in the next life. Mortality is so varied and we as humans have so many different trials and tribulations that we are going through. I'm glad that you and your wife were able to have as many children as you wanted and I'm sorry that so many people have complained to you about how you've had. I get it from the opposite end. I only have one child and don't plan on having more than that and my DH and I waited five years after marriage to start our family. My pregnancy and birth experience was extremely traumatic, I also went through post-partum depression. I have no question that all of Heavenly Father's children will have a chance to receive bodies and partake of the gospel if they so choose. <br />And in the next life I'm pretty sure the ways of procreation will be vastly different so I'm sure I'll have more desire for children in the next life as the traumatizing emotional and physical processes won't be there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com